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You can’t please anyone, ever!

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Okay, so the whole point of my lit­tle site here is for me to piss-fart about with HTML and var­i­ous oth­er ‘web tech­nolo­gies’. The lack of a client means I’m not all that con­cerned with iron­ing out all the bugs… at least not right away. Of the five browsers that run on my cur­rent sys­tem, two of them do an okay job of ren­der­ing the site near what I’m aim­ing for, none of them dis­play my flash logo yet which seems a bit odd but I’ll get it sort­ed one day.
My ulti­mate con­clu­sion is that CSS can’t live up to the hype that sur­rounds it, it is impos­si­ble to ren­der a page in HTML 4 Strict and have it look the same (and in many cas­es as good) as a page done in HTML 4 Trans. And it will be a long time before the good old table tag will no longer be need­ed.
I’ve also reached a few of Grey­mat­ters lim­its, the next step there is to go dig­ging through the perl code (thank the gods of open source), but I’m not sure if I could be both­ered just yet… there are some “neat‑o” things that I’d like to add but the ques­tion is ‘could I be arsed?’.
There is much yet to play with, and the exper­i­ments con­tin­ue.

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5 responses to “You can’t please anyone, ever!”

  1. Olethros Avatar
    Olethros

    This is what web brows­er man­u­fac­tur­ers seem to agree on, which is why none have both­ered imple­ment­ing the stan­dards prop­er­ly. There was a lot of argu­ment that Mozil­la doing it ‘right’ might shame the oth­er big play­er into shap­ing up. I’m not sure that has hap­pened.

  2. David Golding Avatar
    David Golding

    re: CSS — wel­come to 1998! 🙂
    re: Mozil­la — is so embar­rass­ing that it would shame oth­er com­pa­nies to admit they were using it as a goal­post. 🙂 Both Opera and IE have had sub­stan­tial CSS sup­port for some time, but are also gen­er­al­ly usable.
    I like the low tech web. It keeps “devel­op­ers” and “design­ers” from dis­en­fran­chis­ing the com­mon folk.
    re: open source gods — I would­n’t steal Noah’s mojo by thank­ing them.

  3. Dave Avatar
    Dave

    I know that CSS left a lot to be desired when it was first intro­duced… but I had hopped that 3 years lat­er we would be see­ing this tech­nol­o­gy mature it to a wor­thy replace­ment for the dark arts of the web.
    And in the case of Grey­mat­ter, Noah is the god I was thank­ing.

  4. David Golding Avatar
    David Golding

    I’m being a bit disin­gen­u­ous.
    In 1996 I was sus­pi­cious of tech that tried to make the web like mag­a­zines — that is, pret­ty it up.
    In 1997 I jumped on the CSS band­wag­on.
    In 1998 I realised that the imple­men­ta­tions sucked.
    It was­n’t till 2000 that I realised what a crock CSS was and had to be. (I was right in 1996, except for the bad atti­tude.)

  5. Dave Avatar
    Dave

    CSS offers the joy of being able to redesign an entire site by chang­ing just one file! Yet I find that I’m going to be forced to use a com­bon­a­tion of the new and the old.
    I think I’ll try drop­ping the tables and use only divs for a few weeks and see how that goes.

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